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Finding Mastery: Conversations with Michael Gervais

Finding Mastery: Conversations with Michael Gervais

Author: Dr. Michael Gervais

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I’ve been in the trenches with some of the best performers in the world – some who shift how we conceive what’s possible — others who have pushed their own boundaries — ranging from hall of fame athletes to action sport game-changers, entrepreneurs, Mixed Martial Artists, to musicians who influence the rhythm of the world. I’m Dr. Michael Gervais, and I’m excited to decode the many paths toward mastery and provide applied practices that we can all use to be and do more in our lives.
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Dr. Brené Brown, Research Professor and Author
This week’s conversation is with Dr. Brené Brown, a research professor at the University of Houston where she holds the Huffington Foundation – Brené Brown Endowed Chair at The Graduate College of Social Work.She has spent the past two decades studying courage, vulnerability, shame, and empathy and is the author of five #1 New York Times bestsellers: The Gifts of Imperfection, Daring Greatly, Rising Strong, Braving the Wilderness and her latest book Dare to Lead, which is the culmination of a seven-year study on courage and leadershipBrené’s TED talk – The Power of Vulnerability – is one of the top five most viewed TED talks in the world with over 35 million views.The relationship between vulnerability and courage is a focal point of our conversation.In Brené’s words: “You cannot get to courage without walking right through vulnerability.”So what is courage all about and when is it the right time to be vulnerable?Whether it be with a loved one or in the corporate world, do you have the courage to say or do the difficult things?And if you’re a leader, do you have the courage to create a culture that actually allows for people to fall on their face and get back up?Brené has an amazing way of putting her researching into action with simple and applied strategies so I can’t wait for you to learn from her.This episode is brought to you by:Athletic Greens: The most complete supplement for a better you. With 75 ingredients covering 11 areas of health, it gives you the optimum nutrition you need to perform your best, everyday.Receive a free 20-count travel pack of Athletic Greens (valued at $99) with any purchase!Claim here: athleticgreens.com/findingmasteryWHOOP: Get Insight & Analysis into Your Body's Recovery, Strain, & Sleep with WHOOP. Join Now! Waterproof Strap. Monitor Strain. 24/7 Performance Tracking.Your first month of WHOOP FREE with the code FINDINGMASTERY at checkout!Claim here: https://www.whoop.com/findingmastery/Halo Neuroscience: Halo Sport, the first product from Halo Neuroscience, uses Neuropriming technology to improve the brain’s response to motor skill training.  $100 off Halo Sport when you purchase via this Finding Mastery link: http://gethalosport.com/findingmastery
John Brenkus, Producer, Director, TV Personality
This week’s conversation is with John Brenkus, who has spent the last decade studying and popularizing the unique characteristics of the world’s greatest athletes.A co-founder of BASE Productions, he is best known as the on-air host, co-creator and executive producer of ESPN’s Emmy Award-winning show Sport Science, appearing in and producing over 1500 segments that have been featured on ABC and ESPN's enormous sports platform.John has been featured in coverage of The Super Bowl, Monday Night Football, the NBA Finals, Sunday Night Baseball, and The Masters just to name a few.Through Sport Science, John has appeared before 80 million people annually for the last decade, has won 6 Emmys, and has written a New York Times Best Seller "The Perfection Point."When John has an idea he goes for it.It makes sense then, that his philosophy is to: “Make something out of nothing.”In this conversation we discuss what gives him the confidence to go for it and not let a fear of failure get in the way of pursuing his dreams. This episode is brought to you by:Athletic Greens: The most complete supplement for a better you. With 75 ingredients covering 11 areas of health, it gives you the optimum nutrition you need to perform your best, everyday.Receive a free 20-count travel pack of Athletic Greens (valued at $99) with any purchase!Claim here: athleticgreens.com/findingmasteryWHOOP: Get Insight & Analysis into Your Body's Recovery, Strain, & Sleep with WHOOP. Join Now! Waterproof Strap. Monitor Strain. 24/7 Performance Tracking.Your first month of WHOOP FREE with the code FINDINGMASTERY at checkout!Claim here: https://www.whoop.com/findingmastery/Halo Neuroscience: Halo Sport, the first product from Halo Neuroscience, uses Neuropriming technology to improve the brain’s response to motor skill training.  $100 off Halo Sport when you purchase via this Finding Mastery link: http://gethalosport.com/findingmastery
Dr. Daniel Chao, Halo Neuroscience Co-Founder
This week’s conversation is with Dr. Daniel Chao, co-founder of Halo Neuroscience.Dr. Chao’s whole life has been dedicated to understanding the brain and its function — specifically, how electrical stimulation can help the brain more rapidly improve performance, cognitive function, and overall happiness.As some of you are already probably aware, we recently partnered with Halo Neuroscience because I’m bullish on their technology, Halo Sport, which accelerates movement based learning through transcranial direct current stimulation (TDCS).I wanted to have an in-depth conversation with Daniel to learn more about how scientists are using brain stimulation to optimize neurological function and go deeper into what’s possible with this technology.I think this technology is right on the frontier, backed by about 15 years of research and currently used by the best athletes in the world – US Olympic teams, players in the NFL, MLB, NBA, PGA Tour, and more.In a previous Finding Mastery podcast (#045), psychologist Anders Ericsson argued that expert performers acquire their skill through deliberate practice.In deliberate practice, it's a full and deep, possibly nauseatingly deep focus, on whatever skill you are working on learning. This involves minimizing distractions and practicing just outside one's comfort zone.Well what if adding a layer of technology to deliberate practice could accelerate the rate of learning by up to 50%?That’s something we discuss in this conversation and Daniel believes we’re just scratching the surface of what’s possible.As someone who’s always been captivated by the power of the mind, this conversation was such a treat for me so I can’t wait for you to learn from Daniel. This episode is brought to you by:Athletic Greens: The most complete supplement for a better you. With 75 ingredients covering 11 areas of health, it gives you the optimum nutrition you need to perform your best, everyday.Receive a free 20-count travel pack of Athletic Greens (valued at $99) with any purchase!Claim here: athleticgreens.com/findingmasteryWHOOP: Get Insight & Analysis into Your Body's Recovery, Strain, & Sleep with WHOOP. Join Now! Waterproof Strap. Monitor Strain. 24/7 Performance Tracking.Your first month of WHOOP FREE with the code FINDINGMASTERY at checkout!Claim here: https://www.whoop.com/findingmastery/Halo Neuroscience: Halo Sport, the first product from Halo Neuroscience, uses Neuropriming technology to improve the brain’s response to motor skill training.  $100 off Halo Sport when you purchase via this Finding Mastery link: http://gethalosport.com/findingmasteryCompete to Create: Our online course, Finding Your Best, includes our world-class High Performance Mindset™ training to help you live in the present moment more often. Previously reserved for our corporate clients, the eight-week online course, Finding Your Best, takes you through the 16 principles of training your mind.$50 off the course when you use the code FINDINGMASTERY at checkout!Claim here: http://findingmastery.net/onlinecourse
John Donovan, AT&T Communications CEO
This week’s conversation is with John Donovan, CEO of AT&T Communications.He’s responsible for the bulk of AT&T’s global telecommunications and video services businesses, including AT&T’s Business, Entertainment, and Technology & Operations groups.AT&T is a global leader in telecommunications with 100 million U.S. consumer connections and millions of businesses, from the smallest companies to nearly all of the Fortune 1000.John manages over 250,000 people. Think about that for a second.What’s the key to running an organization this large?For John, it starts with knowing his values and what he stands for.This creates a certain space that allows him to be grounded and present more often.In this conversation, John shares how he got so clear on who he is and what he’s striving for.It took some difficult, lonely work to sort it out and I hope you are currently embracing that same process.This episode is brought to you by:Athletic Greens: The most complete supplement for a better you. With 75 ingredients covering 11 areas of health, it gives you the optimum nutrition you need to perform your best, everyday.Receive a free 20-count travel pack of Athletic Greens (valued at $99) with any purchase!Claim here: athleticgreens.com/findingmasteryWHOOP: Get Insight & Analysis into Your Body's Recovery, Strain, & Sleep with WHOOP. Join Now! Waterproof Strap. Monitor Strain. 24/7 Performance Tracking.Your first month of WHOOP FREE with the code FINDINGMASTERY at checkout!Claim here: https://www.whoop.com/findingmastery/Halo Neuroscience: Halo Sport, the first product from Halo Neuroscience, uses Neuropriming technology to improve the brain’s response to motor skill training.  $100 off Halo Sport when you purchase via this Finding Mastery link: http://gethalosport.com/findingmasteryCompete to Create: Our online course, Finding Your Best, includes our world-class High Performance Mindset™ training to help you live in the present moment more often. Previously reserved for our corporate clients, the eight-week online course, Finding Your Best, takes you through the 16 principles of training your mind.$50 off the course when you use the code FINDINGMASTERY at checkout!Claim here: http://findingmastery.net/onlinecourse
Matt Jacobson, Facebook Head of Market Development
This week’s conversation is with Matt Jacobson, Head of Market Development at Facebook.In this role, he focuses on strategic partnerships that connect people to some of the world's most recognized brands.Facebook may be one of the world’s largest companies today, but it wasn’t when Matt joined as employee number 8 over 13 years ago.He took a leap of faith at the time – he believed in their mission and their founder, Mark Zuckerberg, and began working for no salary, only equity.You could say that bet paid off.What gave Matt the confidence to join Facebook?His intellectual curiosity has been a driving force for him for since he was young. In this conversation, we discuss how that intellectual curiosity has allowed him to stay ahead of the curve, take risks and opened up new opportunities.Matt understands, values, and invests deeply in relationships so it’s no surprise that his philosophy is: “To be the best part of another person’s day.”What a cool thought.This episode is brought to you by:Athletic Greens: The most complete supplement for a better you. With 75 ingredients covering 11 areas of health, it gives you the optimum nutrition you need to perform your best, everyday.Receive a free 20-count travel pack of Athletic Greens (valued at $99) with any purchase!Claim here: athleticgreens.com/findingmasteryWHOOP: Get Insight & Analysis into Your Body's Recovery, Strain, & Sleep with WHOOP. Join Now! Waterproof Strap. Monitor Strain. 24/7 Performance Tracking.Your first month of WHOOP FREE with the code FINDINGMASTERY at checkout!Claim here: https://www.whoop.com/findingmastery/Halo Neuroscience: Halo Sport, the first product from Halo Neuroscience, uses Neuropriming technology to improve the brain’s response to motor skill training.  $100 off Halo Sport when you purchase via this Finding Mastery link: http://gethalosport.com/findingmasteryCompete to Create: Our online course, Finding Your Best, includes our world-class High Performance Mindset™ training to help you live in the present moment more often. Previously reserved for our corporate clients, the eight-week online course, Finding Your Best, takes you through the 16 principles of training your mind.$50 off the course when you use the code FINDINGMASTERY at checkout!Claim here: http://findingmastery.net/onlinecourse
Michael Murphy, Co-Founder of the Esalen Institute
This week’s conversation is with Michael Murphy, co-founder and chairman emeritus of the board of the world famous Esalen Institute, tucked away on the coast of Big Sur, in California.Michael and Esalen have been ground zero for the human potential movement: exploring everything from consciousness, Eastern philosophies meeting Western frameworks, the birth place of Gestalt therapy, to generating scores of mind body interventions.In 1950, Michael was a premed student at Stanford and wandered into a class discussing Eastern and Western philosophies and religions.The miscue changed his life.Soon he was meditating and, after earning a bachelor of arts in psychology and serving in the U.S. Army, he lived on an ashram in India for 18 months.Upon returning to the United States, he and the late Richard Price started Esalen on property the Murphy family owned. Over its 50-plus years of existence, it has been described as a “personal growth think tank.”The organization is focused on personal growth, meditation, massage, ecology, yoga, psychology, spirituality — there was nothing quite like it at the time.Michael is also an author.His work includes: ·     The Future of the Body: Explorations into the Further Evolution of Human Nature, Golf in the Kingdom·     The Life We Are Given: A Long-Term Program for Realizing the Potential of Body, Mind, Heart, and Soul·     In the Zone: Transcendent Experience in Sports·      An End to Ordinary HistoryIt's a gift to laugh with him and learn from Michael, and I'm honored to share our conversation.This episode is brought to you by:Athletic Greens: The most complete supplement for a better you. With 75 ingredients covering 11 areas of health, it gives you the optimum nutrition you need to perform your best, everyday.Receive a free 20-count travel pack of Athletic Greens (valued at $99) with any purchase!Claim here: athleticgreens.com/findingmasteryWHOOP: Get Insight & Analysis into Your Body's Recovery, Strain, & Sleep with WHOOP. Join Now! Waterproof Strap. Monitor Strain. 24/7 Performance Tracking.Your first month of WHOOP FREE with the code FINDINGMASTERY at checkout!Claim here: https://www.whoop.com/findingmastery/Halo Neuroscience: Halo Sport, the first product from Halo Neuroscience, uses Neuropriming technology to improve the brain’s response to motor skill training.  $100 off Halo Sport when you purchase via this Finding Mastery link: http://gethalosport.com/findingmasteryCompete to Create: Our online course, Finding Your Best, includes our world-class High Performance Mindset™ training to help you live in the present moment more often. Previously reserved for our corporate clients, the eight-week online course, Finding Your Best, takes you through the 16 principles of training your mind.$50 off the course when you use the code FINDINGMASTERY at checkout!Claim here: http://findingmastery.net/onlinecourse
Javier Gómez, Champion Triathlete
This week’s conversation is with Javier Gómez, a Spanish triathlete.Since 2006, Javier has accumulated one of the best records in triathlon history.Javier is a 5x International Triathlete Union (ITU) World Champion, 2x Ironman 70.3 World Champion, a 9 time world ITU number 1, and won a Silver medal for Spain at the 2012 Summer Olympics in men's triathlon.Simply put, he is a legend in the sport.Javier is currently in the final stages of training for the Ironman World Championship, which will take place on October 13 in Kona, Hawaii. You can learn more about Javi's pursuit to win Kona here.For those unfamiliar with the Ironman, it consists of a 2.4 mile swim, 112 mile bike ride, and 26.2 mile marathon run.No matter how you slice it, this endurance event is rugged, and that’s why I was so excited to talk with Javier about his experience preparing and training for it.Last year’s winner completed the race in just over 8 hours.That’s a lot of time for your mind to wander if you aren’t disciplined - and it’s something we discuss in this conversation.Javi shares how he manages positive and negative thoughts, his process for remaining calm, and how he overcomes intense pain during competition.So much of what goes into training and succeeding in endurance sports is applicable to other aspects of life.It requires persistence, an appreciation for the process, and a willingness to play the long game.This episode is brought to you by:Athletic Greens: Receive a free 20-count travel pack of Athletic Greens (valued at $99) with any purchase!Claim here: athleticgreens.com/findingmasteryWHOOP: Starting today you can join WHOOP for $30 a month, six month minimum to begin. The WHOOP membership service includes the WHOOP Strap 2.0, professional analytics via its mobile and web apps, and a powerful community of performance-minded individuals. To find out more about what they’re doing and join their program, click the link below!https://whoop.com/findingmastery
Dr. Mark Goulston, Suicide Prevention Expert
This week’s conversation is with Dr. Mark Goulston, a Board Certified Psychiatrist, a Fellow of the American Psychiatric Association and a former UCLA Assistant Clinical Professor of Psychiatry.Mark has specialized in psychotherapy for more than thirty years focusing on suicide prevention, death and dying, depression, anxiety, personality disorders, PTSD and marital therapy.After a recent string of high-profile suicides in America, death by suicide is a topic that's on a lot of our minds. Most of us are likely to know or love somebody who has been affected by a suicide.Since September is Suicide Prevention Month, this is a good time to seek understanding about these tragic experiences.You might be surprised by the global rate of suicide:According to the World Health Organization, "Close to 800,000 people die due to suicide every year, which is one person every 40 seconds. Many more attempt suicide. For every person who commit suicide, there's another 20 who attempted."My family has been impacted by suicide - I lost my uncle to this way of dying. Everyone who loved him dearly wishes we could have helped, but we couldn't.This conversation is about learning how to better connect with those in need - through listening, empathy and compassion. This episode is brought to you by:Athletic Greens: Receive a free 20-count travel pack of Athletic Greens (valued at $99) with any purchase!Claim here: athleticgreens.com/findingmasteryWHOOP: Starting today you can join WHOOP for $30 a month, six month minimum to begin. The WHOOP membership service includes the WHOOP Strap 2.0, professional analytics via its mobile and web apps, and a powerful community of performance-minded individuals. To find out more about what they’re doing and join their program, click the link below!https://whoop.com/findingmastery
Mark Healey, Professional Big Wave Surfer/Waterman
This week’s conversation is with Mark Healey, a professional big-wave surfer, award-winning spear-fisherman, free-diver, photographer, filmmaker, and part-time Hollywood stuntman.Mark’s made no shortage of major achievements in his career as a waterman. Earning his first surf sponsorship at age 13 and going pro at 17, the 31-year-old has racked up victories at big-wave events like Todos Santos and—in 2008—nabbed the Spearfishing World Cup. While he’s encountered his share of close calls—from shark attacks to blackouts—Mark thrives on the elements of danger inherent to his work. And that is a central part of this conversation. We discuss embracing challenges and why it’s important to face adversity head on rather than run from it. When you get to that edge, that point where you’re uncomfortable, that’s where you really learn what’s possible for yourself.Mark is wise beyond his years and I can’t wait for you to learn from him.This episode is brought to you by:Athletic Greens: Receive a free 20-count travel pack of Athletic Greens (valued at $99) with any purchase!Claim here: athleticgreens.com/findingmasteryWHOOP: Starting today you can join WHOOP for $30 a month, six month minimum to begin. The WHOOP membership service includes the WHOOP Strap 2.0, professional analytics via its mobile and web apps, and a powerful community of performance-minded individuals. To find out more about what they’re doing and join their program, click the link below!https://whoop.com/findingmastery
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Jennyfer Perdomo

thank you for this . will help me grow

Nov 1st
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Alissa Johnson

90% of your guests are male. I would like a more gender-balanced guest list.

Oct 19th
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Nelson Macias

buenos, sé zzt y tu familiaz

Aug 22nd
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Lauren Chemplavil

I grew up in New England and was an age group swimmer there the same time as Erik, and can remember his work ethic as being legendary at that time (I'm shuddering thinking about a set of 30×1000s). I also remember meeting him once and was just the nicest guy, and that was reflected here. It's been so fun to watch his career end inspiring to hear his story as he transitioned to life after swimming. Great episode!

Aug 16th
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Golden Whale

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