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S03 Episode 09: Some Time When Everything Has Changed

S03 Episode 09: Some Time When Everything Has Changed

Update: 2018-11-15160
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The state of Ohio decides where Joshua belongs.
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Jamie Chorman

I live 40 miles east of Cleveland and hearing all of this has been truly heartbreaking and completely disgusting. I can't believe how terrible the crimes are that go unreported and how crooked most of our cops and judicial system have become. so very sad, all around

Mar 14th
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Paul Coulthard

As a British white guy living in the UK I'm a bit shocked as how unfair the system seems to be in Cleveland, it seems the system unfairly penalises the poor with these multiple misdemeanors.

Feb 14th
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Tom Upton

there are three sides to every story: yours, mine, and the truth.

Jan 11th
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Skye Compton

Ouch. This one really hurts to listen to. Ugh. S/O to Sarah for giving us this experience. I can only imagine how hard it must have been.

Dec 7th
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Tatyonna Jordan

How interesting the very stark differences between the comments made by white people and comments made by black people on these episodes. What a PRIVILEGE it must be for these white folks to sit on their high horses and not have to empathize cause none of this effects them.

Nov 20th
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Joe Young

Tatyonna Jordan "Calling out" people does nothing but reinforce their beliefs.

Jan 4th
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Joe Young

Tatyonna Jordan I've got exactly one friend who's racist against blacks. I mock him for it all the time. I get his goose by reminding him the achievements of the black race, listing the musical genres that they directly created or inspired and reminding him his line will eventually become black. He hates it.

Jan 4th
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Greg Neumann

there is one absolute sure way to not have to deal with all this - don't break the law!!! They always start with "he didn't really do anything" only to follow up with a list of actions the vast majority of us would never even consider doing. It really is as simple as follow the law.

Nov 19th
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Steven Weglinski

Greg Neumann this entire series about examining the institutional policies that perpetuate a system of inequalities, racism, and oppression. this includes inequalities of general access to resources, living in poor environments/neighborhoods, leading to greater chances of being stopped and frisked, involved in violence as a necessary part of ones world to protect oneself, etx... I hope that examining the process is the lens folks are having.

Jan 15th
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justmydeals

Susan Gillett Did you just compare Nelson Mandela and Rosa Parks to the lowlife who committed three armed robberies, various assaults, drugs, gang violence, etc.? You are not fit to have those amazing human's names names on your lips.

Dec 8th
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Nick Kerr

unfortunately, our criminal justice system preys on people like Joshua because they are easy targets that don't have the resources to challenge it.

Nov 16th
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ns520az

Joshua had no business joining a gang and committing armed robberies at age 16. There's no getting around that. He dug his own grave in that regard. Having said that, he got fu**ed by the Feds. Once he gave the Feds intel on the Heartless Felons, he should have been placed in a juvenile facility far away from Cleveland where he could have quietly done his time and moved on with his life. The Feds fu**ed Joshua. No question about it.

Nov 15th
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Halli Adams

ns520az What were his options? Both parents in jail...surrounded by others committing crimes...few positive role models...on and on. He was set up to fail in life and the criminal justice system failed him even further.

Nov 28th
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Sammy Suri

We all make mistakes and most of us pay for it one way or another.

Nov 16th
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michael palmer

as a black man this breaks my heart....

Nov 15th
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justmydeals

michael palmer as a white woman who has been the victim of an armed robbery, the sympathy for this guy -- who committed three of these vicious crimes -- breaks MY heart. The aftermath of this crime keeps ME up at night, not him. He's just worried about what's happening to HIM, not his victims. Excuse me for being as selfish as he's being.

Dec 8th
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Halli Adams

Richard McCarthy I agree. I also think a lot of white people will still deny that privilege even exists. Very sad.

Nov 28th
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Aj Grant

I am black. I listened. I wept. This America.

Nov 15th
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Halli Adams

Aj Grant ...and this is only one example of one young man. Multiply that by hundreds of thousands of young black men. 😢

Nov 28th
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S03 Episode 09: Some Time When Everything Has Changed

S03 Episode 09: Some Time When Everything Has Changed

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