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The other side is dangerously wrong. They think you are too. But for democracy to work, we need to hear each other out. Each week New York Times Opinion columnists David Leonhardt, Michelle Goldberg and Ross Douthat explain the arguments from across the political spectrum. Their candid debates help you form your own opinion of the latest news, and learn how the other half thinks. Find the best ways to persuade in the modern search for common ground.

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Jason Newton

Does Ross understand that if you have a stay at home parent scenario like he describes, it is probably because there is a certain degree of affluence that does not necessitate a second income? He is suggesting subsidising the rich.

Mar 11th
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Ada Bruguera Riera

The Catholic Church is the institutionalization of cynicism.

Mar 9th
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Jason Huntley

1)I agree that we've moved closer to an Imperialist Executive branch and I believe that needs to be corrected and balance needs to be attained between the branches. This has been an issue for decades. 2) I'm glad Ross caught Michelle with the Caesar example. The democrats would be more than happy to seize power, regardless if it was constitutional or not. Trump is correct in saying that if he didn't set the precedent, the Dems would, but that still doesn't make it right. 3) How is Michelle going to call Kavanaugh a "partisan hack" and ignore the fact that just about every judge is partisan? Trump was right in saying there are Obama judges, Trump judges, etc. If you deny that fact like Robert's did, you're being insincere. The Left abused the Judicial system and the Right finally got their act straight and did something about it. If judges were truly all neutral, then there wouldn't be any reason to be upset.

Mar 7th
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Jason Huntley

The first half without Ross was like nails on a chalkboard. I am honestly interested in Michelle's view, but when she spits out word vomit, she loses any respect I had before I pressed play. As an example, how do you call Trump an obvious traitor and then try to explain that away? Just be more precise with your language and put your obvious loathing of the guy to the side for an hour. She took the AOC approach and cared more about being "morally right" than factually correct. FYI, you can't be morally right if you know you're being factually incorrect.

Mar 7th
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Jason Huntley

Ross did alright concerning the anger. Michelle wants to blame it on the right, but the left is just as guilty and I'm glad he called her out on the baseball shooting. She was either intentionally dishonest or ignorant of that fact and I'm pretty sure someone with her job should know. Concerning masculinity, is it really a surprise the majority of men in this country are confused? You have men being raised by in a culture where the media dominates. The leftist media of Hollywood and major news tell us that gender is fluid. That women can be men. That men and women as a gender don't exist. That we should be gender neutral. That a woman with a penis mean she has a female penis. Seriously?! How are people surprised?! Men are taking masculinity advice from shaving companies! The problem with the right is that it is full of a bunch of passive sissy men who won't step up and lead. Ross dropped the ball on this with his 'I don't know' shoulder shrug.

Mar 4th
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Linda Susan Erickson

Definitely, where's the Argument? The podcast is totally lopsided! 😡

Mar 1st
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Anthony C

I think you have a psychological problem. every single mention of Trump in episode titles is negative. To be honest, I haven't listened to a single word of your program.

Feb 28th
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Harry Burton

Next time Ross can't make it, you really gotta postpone the podcast.

Feb 28th
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Jared Poulter

Harry Burton I agree. I like Ross. I am not used to agreeing most with the guy on the right, but I do feel that he is the most level headed person in the group. Without him the other two are just in an echo chamber.

Feb 28th
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Jay St.john

Is this not a daily podcast?

Feb 28th
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Messdnys

Oh for heaven's sake, no one cares about "powerful women". Such a tired old strawman. We hate AOC because she's an idiot. Everything that comes out of her mouth is unbelievably foolish. But I suppose that doesn't matter to people who think that it's "more important to be morally right than factually correct." What a garbage podcast

Feb 24th
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Jason Huntley

Messdnys I also had an issue when the host added AOC's ethnicity into the mix. Conservatives don't care about her ethnicity, but him saying there must be a 4th reason and ethnicity is that reason is a problem. Democrats constantly need intersectionality to be an issue, whereas the majority of conservatives could not care less what color her skin is. Ross needed to push back at that.

Mar 4th
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Emmanuel Weber

wow, I totally never thought about this before... 🤔

Feb 24th
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Andrew Xu

I loved Ross's arguments in the first half of this episode.

Feb 22nd
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Jason Huntley

I didn't agree with all that was said by Ross, but the best statement was the last he made. "The answer is to care and not to kill."

Feb 22nd
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Jason Huntley

Yeah, the GND is definitely a Leftist fantasy. It wasn't just a mission statement or proposed goal, but it was a plan that was taken seriously by many Dems. There's no serious plan about how any of this would be implemented.

Feb 22nd
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Linda Susan Erickson

I was enjoying your new podcast because it looked at issues from multiple perspectives. Until today! Michelle was allowed to dominate the discussion with her over the top partisan rhetoric. Her casting of Trump as the devil incarnate and the Reps as his henchmen is far beyond rational discussion. Unfortunately, even Ross was unable to reign her in. I hope this will change, otherwise the podcast will be just more red meat for the Left base. I hope for better from the NYT.

Feb 21st
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Mike Bonnell

Travis Tern 1) I'm neither liberal nor conservative. as a human being I refuse to be steroetyped so narrowly. How can you stand it? Worse yet, how can you do it to yourselves? 2) Strange, but to me, all 3 seemed to be agreeing that trump is either a despot or a moron or both. Why did you focus on Michelle? Have another listen....

Feb 22nd
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Travis Tern

Linda Susan Erickson genuinely could not have put those thoughts better myself. was thinking the same thing. maybe they get one or two chances but I'm a conservative and could hardly stand to listen to them propagandize for a liberal audience.

Feb 21st
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Claude Poliakoff

Medicare for all - gov't bureacrats will never be as hard nosed as a greedy "private" insurer

Feb 19th
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Alex Mercedes

absolutely astounding. a conversation about abortion that didn't end up in tears or screaming or both. thank you for modelling civil debate. it is a vanishing format among us.

Feb 18th
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Alex Mercedes

thanks for the introduction to Michelle G! what a rich, on point, intelligent conversation on the GND. excellent program.

Feb 18th
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steven gordon

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Feb 17th
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Merritt Cowart

The content us very left leaning. the podcast sounds like one liberal arguing with the other liberal trying to sound even more left wing.

Feb 12th
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