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The other side is dangerously wrong. They think you are too. But for democracy to work, we need to hear each other out. Each week New York Times Opinion columnists David Leonhardt, Michelle Goldberg and Ross Douthat explain the arguments from across the political spectrum. Their candid debates help you form your own opinion of the latest news, and learn how the other half thinks. Find the best ways to persuade in the modern search for common ground.

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Is Trump Right About China?

Is Trump Right About China?

2019-05-1600:33:05

What's the right way for the United States to take on China? Ross Douthat, Michelle Goldberg and David Leonhardt debate Trump's trade war and China's economically aggressive, increasingly authoritarian behavior. Then, is America's labor movement, long in decline, finally enjoying a comeback? For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument
How strong is the American economy — and how much credit should President Trump get for it? Ross Douthat, Michelle Goldberg and David Leonhardt disagree on where the boom is coming from and what it means for America's future. Then, as the president asserts executive privilege over the unredacted Mueller report while his administration fights congressional subpoenas, is a constitutional crisis inevitable? For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument
What’s the best way to solve America’s mass incarceration crisis? NYT Magazine writer and "Charged" author Emily Bazelon joins Michelle Goldberg to discuss the unchecked power of prosecutors as problem and potential solution. Then, the columnists debate what a better criminal justice system could look like. For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument
Robert Mueller's (redacted) report is out, but now what? Can the Democrats use it to impeach President Donald Trump? Ross Douthat, David Leonhardt and special guest Michelle Cottle of The Times's editorial board disagree about what comes next for the president and the country. Then David and Ross revisit one of their sharpest recurring disagreements: What can be done about climate change? For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargumentFor tickets to our live show in Boston, visit https://timesevents.nytimes.com/theargumentboston
What should U.S. immigration policy look like? The columnists debate Kirstjen Nielsen's resignation, Trump's xenophobia and Obama's legacy on immigration live on stage at the Times Center in New York. Then, in response to listener voicemail, Ross, Michelle and David discuss the 2020 candidacies of Pete Buttigieg, Kirsten Gillibrand, Andrew Yang, Cory Booker and Amy Klobuchar. For background reading on this live episode, visit nytimes.com/theargumentFor tickets to our live show in Boston, visit https://timesevents.nytimes.com/theargumentboston
Should Biden Run?

Should Biden Run?

2019-04-0400:36:027

Is Joe Biden the Democrats’ best hope to beat Trump in 2020? Or is he woefully behind the times? Ross Douthat, Michelle Goldberg and David Leonhardt disagree about the former vice president's potential run for POTUS. Then the columnists debate what America's sex recession means for the country. For background reading, visit nytimes.com/theargument
Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into the Trump campaign's ties to Russia has wrapped, and Attorney General William Barr's letter to Congress has been delivered. Michelle, Ross and David debate whether there really was "no collusion," if the media oversold the scandal and what should happen next. Then, is it time to abolish the Electoral College? The columnists disagree. For background reading, visit nytimes.com/theargument.For tickets to the live show, visit https://timesevents.nytimes.com/OpinionApril.If you are having thoughts of suicide, call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255 (TALK). You can find a list of additional resources at SpeakingOfSuicide.com/resources.
How much blame does President Trump’s deserve for New Zealand’s white-supremacist mosque shooting? Jamelle Bouie joins hosts Ross Douthat, Michelle Goldberg and David Leonhardt for a debate about xenophobic ideology, internet troll culture and their connection to hate crimes. Later, they turn to whether college admissions can ever be a fair system, and what can be done about meritocracy, elitism and college sports recruitment. For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument
Senator Elizabeth Warren sits down with David Leonhardt for a chat about her 2020 presidential campaign. They talk Donald Trump, her proposed wealth tax and universal childcare program, antitrust policy and her dog Bailey. Then, Ross Douthat and Michelle Goldberg join David to debate whether Warren’s economic agenda could be a winning one. For background reading, visit: nytimes.com/theargument
Is prekindergarten for all a liberal pipe dream? The columnists sit down with special guest Mara Gay of The Times editorial board to discuss the successes and pitfalls of New York City's universal pre-K program. Then, Ross Douthat and New York magazine's Andrew Sullivan debate the Roman Catholic Church's dual crises around sexuality and sexual abuse — and what should be done about them. For background reading, visit: nytimes.com/theargument
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Bookshopedreams

enjoyed the debate !

May 19th
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Jared Poulter

I feel like Michelle hurts her argument when she calls the Trump administration authoritarian. The president still does not have enough power to be able to call this an authoritarian regime. Overall, I agree with her argument about the US decline in global power, but she loses credibility when she sensationalizes her hate for Trump. And this is coming from someone who hates Trump.

May 16th
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Jonathan Tremonte

what was the directors name that was mentioned at the end again?

May 10th
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Jason Huntley

Another episode where Michelle did exactly what she would criticize Republicans for doing in calling the President illegitimate. I wish David had let her reply to Ross when he basically said that if it's not about prosecution, then all Dems are left with concerning Barr is not liking his summary. David poisons the well concerning the potential Court decision when he says the Justices can either be Republican functionaries or Judges. That's a false dichotomy and again shows how this show is clearly 2v1. I'd love to have a more unbiased host who actually moderates and asks both sides tough questions. Nice job Ross. Continue to be reasonable.

May 9th
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Jared Poulter

The difference between Obama's policies to stimulate the economy and Trump's is timing. Macroeconomic theory would suggest that it is prudent to run deficits during a recession so that you can spur the economy into growth. Having recovered, the theory would suggest that we should pull back a little and pay back those deficits. Instead they have deepened deficits further with tax cuts primarily to the wealthy.

May 9th
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Jared Poulter

Jason Huntley This is true. My return was also bigger. I am closer to the bottom of the middle class than the top. The tax cuts benefitted more than just the wealthy, but it benefitted the wealthy more.

May 9th
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Jason Huntley

Jason Huntley But I did like my extra $2000 the last 2yrs and I'm middle class, so I know it didn't just benefit the top.

May 9th
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Tadas Simokaitis

What are we really doing here? Is truly the question!

May 6th
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Ralph Grove

I'm really disappointed that you're inserting ads for NYT cooking in your podcasts. I'm a vegan and it's disgusting to hear people talking about meat constantly.

May 6th
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jack mchogoff

Ralph Grove oh no! the libturd vegan is triggered..... SMH.

May 6th
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Jason Huntley

Michelle's first words describe the attitude and mindset of the Left perfectly, arrogant. The Left's reluctance and sometimes inability to have a logical, consistent, and coherent discussion is perfectly summed up with her beginning statement. Ross did a decent job, but the talk was dominated by Michelle and so things questions like why are open borders bad? Why are Dems saying there's a crisis now, but not when Trump called it a crisis? Which cities are declining in population and why? Here's a hint, democratic taxes, poor immigration policies like sanctuary cities, and unaffordable housing.

Apr 30th
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Jane Kim

I love Ross. He embodies what I consider to be a good representation of right wing supporters, myself included. It's refreshing to have conservative perspective in a sane, logical, and empathetic environment. I hope this podcast really helps bring the polarized U.S. politics to work with each other to bring greater good.

Apr 26th
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Lynnel Fletcher

Great podcast!... and yes, they are afraid..... and they SHOULD BE! (Insert evil laugh) 😂😂😂

Apr 19th
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Masahide Kang

Has it occurred to any of the antiTrumpers that his behavior toward the Russians could also just as easily and reasonably as the actions of an innocent man? Given the much tougher stance that Trump has taken against Russia, much tougher than Obama, then by the logic of the left, Obama was the colluder? Remember, "the 1980s want their foreign policy back?"

Apr 11th
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Masahide Kang

can Michelle Goldberg capable of talking about Trump or conservatives without referring to them with vile names?

Apr 10th
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Masahide Kang

What's disturbing is leftists like Miss Goldberg makes statements like, "feeling the boot of patriarchy", as if that's some kind of normal reaction. Unfortunately, organizations like the Times gives a national megaphone to overwrought, hypersensitized activists allowing these abnormal sentiments to appear reasonable

Apr 10th
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Jason Huntley

1. What is the significance of video games and white nationalism in a debate about sex? 2. The hookup culture was strongly pushed by the Left, and specifically the feminists, as a way for women to feel more empowered sexually the way men did. 3. As Michelle demonstrated the Left has no answer for the incel problem other than men be nice to women. Michelle saying that a little bit of casual sex is healthy is one of the reasons there is a lack of respect for men and women and is a tear in our social fabric. 4. The Left can't identify a man from a woman, I'm sure not going to take advice on how to be a man from them nor am I going to take their definition of what is and isn't "toxic masculinity". It's strange I never hear anything about toxic femininity.

Apr 8th
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Jared Poulter

Did Michelle just try to draw a link between young men not having sex and becoming white nationalists? I am confused.

Apr 4th
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Jason Huntley

Jared Poulter Yes and no. A conversation that was supposed to be about the lack of sex in general became about in els and their unhealthy lifestyle. My issue is that Ross tried to point out that the study had issues and pull it back to a lack of sex in the culture, but Michelle (always one to be irrational) made it amount how men can be "toxic" and video games are part of that culture.

Apr 8th
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Alex Mercedes

I don't understand. we haven't seen the Mueller Report yet. So how do we know whether it was botched? let alone who botched it.

Apr 3rd
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Matt Materiale

I love how all the titles stigmatize trump. "is trump destroying america???"

Mar 31st
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Stephen Cardwell (Steve)

Biggest problem with Electoral College are winner-take-all allocation instead of divided proportional ly on ratio of votes. Having different rules for different states is foggy process

Mar 28th
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Jason Huntley

When David said Trump was a cause for white supremacy, I almost unsubscribed. Ross brought him back to some semblance of sanity, but that was so ignorant to say in the first place. It just shows how the Left love to gaslight and make inflammatory remarks. Anything to get a rise or make headlines. Will the Left be consistent and blame Ilhan Omar for the next inevitable attack on Jews or now blame Bernie for the baseball shooting? Gimme a break and be consistent. Unless someone calls for violence against a specific people, we can't start blaming people for others actions.

Mar 28th
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Jason Huntley

The Left will never be satisfied nor accept the truth of the report. The strength of a conspiracy theory is that it is unfalsifiable. Another example of the insanity of the Left. I would also like to point out the blatant lack of emotional self-control on Michele's part. She has called people "Hacks", with whom she dislikes or disagrees. The constant Ad-hominen is a clear signal flare of the lack of strength in her arguments. Keep up the control and thoughtful rebuttals Ross. "No Collusion" is a perfectly reasonable response haha.

Mar 28th
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Jason Huntley

SMSimon Umm... I don't watch the news, let alone Fox News. I don't have time for TV. I wouldn't feel the need to gloat if the Leftist media had done their job as self-professed objective journalists. And lastly, Mueller was quick to call out BuzzFees for their incorrect claims. I'm sure he wouldn't be shy to correct Barr if something was incorrect. Presidents get to pick AGs... So what? The summary gets to the point of the issue. I don't need to recite the entire Star Wars saga to give you the gist of the story. And as to the SDNY, as any normal and sane person would say, I'll wait till that time comes before making any idiotic predictions or wishes. DON'T STOP! BELIEVING! though.

Mar 29th
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SMSimon

Jason Huntley We haven't even seen the report, beyond Drumpf's handpicked AG's 4 page summary of a HUGE report. I think I'll take my chances that we haven't heard the whole story yet. Plus I'm so glad you came here to gloat, but I sure hope you won't be too disappointed when the Southern District of New York puts the entire Drumpf family (plus Jared) away for a long, long time. Cheers Fox News sheep!

Mar 29th
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